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elzie5000 cutter
Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1177
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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The Webbs will be driving those machines in the parade, giving out candy to children on the sidewalk with the destructo-buckets. |
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catamount townie
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 163 Location: lex
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Those cranes are eerily placed where the Woolworth Building once stood...another building the fell victim to the stewardship of Rosenberg. _________________ "The path of least resistance is what makes the river crooked!” - Utah Phillips |
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catamount townie
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 163 Location: lex
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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I got this from Walker tonight...
A motion to stop demolition of the block was defeated by an 8-5 vote today in the LFUCG Council.
Preserve Lexington has filed suit in Circuit Court against the Webbs and LFUCG to halt demolition of the block until the Planning Commission rules on their appeal of the Courthouse Area Design Review Board ruling.
The case is in Circuit Courtroom E at 8:45 tomorrow morning (Wednesday). This is the new courthouse closest to the Central Library. We need a show of support in the courtroom. If we fail tomorrow morning, there's a good chance that we can kiss our block goodbye very very soon. _________________ "The path of least resistance is what makes the river crooked!” - Utah Phillips |
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davem training wheels
Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 12 Location: Lexington
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Seriously! Why would the council allow the Webbeeees to begin demolition right before a holiday weekend? Especially with the parade and other festivities downtown. There will be people all over the place. Safety anyone? I can't make it in the morning, so whoever can make it, please update us. That picture with the heavy equipment is damn depressing. |
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elzie5000 cutter
Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1177
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure the Webbs think large piles of rubble will be a public service on the 4th. People can sit on them for a better view of the parade. |
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politicalhero cutter
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 657 Location: Sexy Lexi on the Southside
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: |
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Blevins is my shitdawg
”What we have is a vertical Lexington Mall, right in the heart of downtown.“
Council discusses city's part, if any
By Beverly Fortune
bfortune@herald-leader.com
City leaders spent three hours Tuesday debating the pros and cons of the controversial CentrePointe construction project, a discussion several Urban County Council members said they should have had two years ago.
”This is the first time the council has sat down and really discussed this,“ councilman Dick DeCamp said. ”I think it is really ludicrous that we are having our first discussion of (tax incentives for the project) at this late date.“
CentrePointe is a proposed $250 million hotel, condominium, retail and office complex slated to be built by developers Dudley and Woodford Webb on a prominent downtown block.
Preservationists favor development of the block, but want to see some of the existing structures saved.
Darby Turner, attorney for The Webb Companies, answered questions about the project from council members, who asked basic questions about how tax increment financing worked.
Turner said the company would like to build about $35 million in public infrastructure as part of the project. Tax increment financing (TIF) would allow the company to recoup that money over time from the tax revenue generated by the project.
Council members wanted to know a variety of details, including: What can TIF money be used for? Do the Webbs need TIF money to make the project work? What amenities would the city get if it partnered with the Webbs?
The wide-ranging discussion was sparked by a joint resolution introduced by DeCamp and councilman Tom Blues that would have prohibited CentrePointe developers from razing historic structures on the block until CentrePointe's TIF application was approved by the council.
Also, it would have required the developers to show that financing for the massive project is ”secured and verified.“
DeCamp feared a repeat of the 1981 World Coal Center fiasco, he said. The future Gov. Wallace Wilkinson had planned to build a 50-story tower, and the Phoenix Hotel was razed. However, the project never got built.
Instead, the city was left with a large hole in the heart of downtown for several years.
Blues said the resolution was not meant to block the project. ”It is intended to bring clarity to the financing of the project,“ he said.
Turner said CentrePointe had private financing lined up and will not apply for TIF money ”unless the city asks us to.“
After the lengthy discussion, the resolution failed.
The Council did pass by an 8-to-5 vote a motion to place a resolution on Thursday night's docket to encourage the Webbs to apply for TIF funding in order to get public improvements for downtown.
Linda Gorton, initially opposed to the CentrePointe TIF, changed her mind because she said it was the only way the city could afford amenities such as a redesigned Phoenix Park.
TIF funds can only be used for public infrastructure such as sidewalks, parks, parking garages and public art.
For the first time, Turner said one of the improvements could be renovating the old Fayette County Courthouse and adapting it to another use, possibly new space for the Explorium, the children's museum.
Councilmen Julian Beard, Jay McChord and George Myers said they favored encouraging CentrePointe to apply for TIF funds.
Vice Mayor Jim Gray said he was confused by the Webbs' stance on TIF funds. ”If CentrePointe could be built with private money, why had it even considered TIF funding?“ he asked.
To be eligible for TIF money, state law stipulates that a project must show it needs public assistance to be built.
John Farris, a former state finance secretary who helped draft the 2007 TIF legislation and is now a consultant to the Webbs, responded that ”we are talking about two different projects.“
CentrePointe could be built as a privately funded project. Or, if the city wanted to participate, it could be a public-private partnership, bigger in scope with public amenities, he said.
”If we encourage the public-private partnership, then meaningful dissent would have to be listened to, like retaining some of the historic fabric of the block,“ Gray countered.
The Webbs will meet with council members to discuss what public infrastructure to include in the TIF application, Turner said. However, he said there would be no compromise on saving the old buildings and altering the design of the 35-story structure.
Several council members expressed concern that the council was being rushed into making a decision.
”Here we are, almost at the 11th hour with a gun to our head to do TIF or not do TIF,“ said Councilman Don Blevins.
Blevins said his fear was that the complex would fail. ”I hope I'm wrong. But what if I'm right?“ he asked. ”What we have is a vertical Lexington Mall, right in the heart of downtown.“ |
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elzie5000 cutter
Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1177
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: |
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10:30 AM today. |
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brokebike cutter
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2434 Location: local
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: |
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sad.
I encourage everyone who feels so inclined, to visit the Centrepointe site and email the Webb Bros. to tell them how you feel about their poor timing and disregard to the festivities planned for this weekend. _________________ ------------[] O |
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elzie5000 cutter
Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1177
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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politicalhero cutter
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 657 Location: Sexy Lexi on the Southside
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:02 am Post subject: |
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I find it really hard to believe that the real email address for dudley webb is an aol account.
Fuck it, I emailed anyway |
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brokebike cutter
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2434 Location: local
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: |
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well, at least it appears young Woodford is checking his Blackberry today. Here's the response to my email, verbatim:
Quote: | I'm sorry that you feel that way. To many, there would never be a good time. |
_________________ ------------[] O |
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elzie5000 cutter
Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1177
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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12:30 PM today. |
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alice training wheels
Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 36 Location: lexington
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: poor bixler |
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That was B's apartment. |
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brokebike cutter
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2434 Location: local
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I hope B-Boy made it out safely. _________________ ------------[] O |
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brokebike cutter
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2434 Location: local
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Eric S. gets in a poignant last word in today's article... amen.
Reactions mixed as first buildings leveled
By Beverly Fortune
Louis Bickett has documented downtown in photographs for 20 years. Wednesday, he was adding the latest shots to his photographic history, shots of two buildings on South Limestone being torn down.
”We went through this once before in the 1960s,“ Bickett said, referring to the time when many buildings were torn down for what was known as ”urban renewal.“
”It's sort of sad when we're still tearing old buildings down,“ he said.
With his camera slung over his shoulder, Bickett, a downtown artist and resident, headed up Limestone on his way home.
The block, bounded by West Main, South Upper, Vine Street and South Limestone, is the site of the proposed CentrePointe project, a 35-story hotel, condominium, retail and office complex.
The Building Inspection office has issued demolition permits for four buildings on South Limestone. The first two came down Wednesday.
Asbestos issues were resolved for 111 South Limestone so that it and 109 can be torn down Thursday, said John Bryan, deputy director of Building Inspection.
Happy to see the buildings come down were Linda Taulbee and Linda McIntyre, who work in the Property Valuation Office across Limestone from the demolition site.
”I think all this needed tearing down,“ Taulbee said. ”I'm all for something new. I love new everything.“
Watching the buildings fall will be ”entertaining“ for a few days, she added.
Kathleen Imhoff, director of the Lexington Public Library, has a front-row seat for the CentrePointe block from her fifth-floor office.
It was ”surreal“ when the giant piece of demolition equipment rolled up to the old Levas building and a giant claw reached out and grabbed a piece of the building.
”When I see the puffs of dust rise up, it's like seeing the spirits of the people who used to inhabit those buildings,“ she said. ”It's sad.“
At the Good Foods Co-op's Chapter 2 cafe on the first floor of the library, manager Eric Sutherland could not bring himself to watch the destruction when ”in the blink of an eye“ a building is torn down.
”They're touting this (CentrePointe) as a community project. But they thumbed their nose at the community. This was never a community project,“ he said. ”It says something about a lack of leadership in the city.“ _________________ ------------[] O |
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