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LarryG training wheels
Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 18 Location: South Lexington
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Does anyone in Lexington braze? |
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I have an old bike that I want to get powdercoated, but one of the top-tube cable guides is broken. Is there any one in town that can braze a piece on a bike? |
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politicalhero cutter
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 657 Location: Sexy Lexi on the Southside
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know if Alex Meade can braze? |
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bryant hipster
Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 111
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Alex Meade would know. I'll send you a private message with his email. |
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brokebike cutter
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2434 Location: local
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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politicalhero wrote: | Does anyone know if Alex Meade can braze? |
Brad's new porteur rack appears to be brazed, and Alex made it. Also, I've seen bikes of his that were lugged... so I'm guessing the answer is yes. |
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LarryG training wheels
Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 18 Location: South Lexington
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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bryant wrote: | Alex Meade would know. I'll send you a private message with his email. |
Got in touch with him & it looks like he'll be able to do it. Thanks. |
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LarryG training wheels
Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 18 Location: South Lexington
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: |
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An update: I took the frame to Alex, and he performed a beautiful repair for $20. The repair will be undetectable (not that I really cared) after painting.
I dropped the f/f off at Metal Cleaners for a powdercoat job. They quoted $100 and two weeks. W'll see how that part goes. |
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brokebike cutter
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2434 Location: local
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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I just took this fella in to Metal Cleaners this afternoon. This has been a project of mine that was shelved about 3 years ago, but was long overdue for some love. With any luck, I'll have it up and running again before Bike Lexington.
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mcrib townie
Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 232 Location: 40502
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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It is funny that everyone that takes a bike there seems to pay a different price _________________ Albert Einstein trembled when he found out time was water. Seeping through the rafters to put out this burning world. |
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brokebike cutter
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2434 Location: local
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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mcrib wrote: | It is funny that everyone that takes a bike there seems to pay a different price |
This is my 3rd frame with them. First was $75, second was $50, and now this one is $100. Granted, the first two were several years ago, so I figured the cost would definitely be inflated a bit more now.
after talking to a few other paint shops and powdercoating places in the area, it seems most people are wise to how the guys at Metal Cleaners operate.
Last week, I spoke with one of the guys at Perfect Auto (on the corner of High & Rose) and he was joking that whenever they send stuff to Metal Cleaners, they just send it along with one of their employee's wives, because they get cheaper quotes that way. |
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LarryG training wheels
Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 18 Location: South Lexington
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Got my frame & fork back today from Metal Cleaners. It's an old lugged Stumpjumper made in a small Japanese factory. The powdercoat job they did was really nice. They sandblasted it first & even hit the inside of the bb shell. There was a lot of chrome on the frame, but they roughed it all up before coating. The powdercoat is even and thick, not too glossy but it looks like it will hold up well.
The only thing they skimped on was the masking. They stuffed tape into the tubes, but it was just wadded in. There was powder inside the headtube, seattube, and on the last few bb threads. When I picked the frame up, I told the guy that I would have to hone out all the tubes to get my headset and seatpost in. He pshawed me & said "just jam them in, the fit isn't that precise". I didn't bother to correct him.
They masked off the brake studs on the fork, but not the frame. They masked the steerer tube, but not the part on the fork where the bottom of the crown race fits. I guess that's OK, because I can see how that kind of masking would consume a lot of time.
So be aware that you will have to put some time into prepping the frame before re-assembly. I spent some time on it today with a Dremel tool & flap sanding wheel, and I'll hit the brake studs with a wire wheel tomorrow. I'll probably take the frame into a shop to get the bb threads chased.
All in all, I'm still satisfied, because the frame looks really good & $100 isn't that much for a sandblast & powder coat. |
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brokebike cutter
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2434 Location: local
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: |
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That's funny, I also picked up my Cycle Truck frame from Metal Cleaners yesterday afternoon. The guy asked me if I knew you because he said that there was another frame to be picked up that day, and he said that in talking with you, he found out that there was "some website out there with a bunch of bikers on it" recommending their powder coat services.
I think the price is reasonable for what they offer, and you can't beat the durability of powdercoat for a bike frame, even if your color choices are somewhat limited. They do what they need to as far as trying to mask off the most obvious parts of the tubing, but the interaction you had with that guy when he said "just jam them in..." illustrates that they aren't familiar enough with the anatomy and mechanics of bikes to do it perfectly. Which, you can't really fault them for that... besides, I'd rather spend an hour or so with a Dremel and a brass wire brush getting all that shit cleaned out like it should be, rather than trusting someone else to do it with masking tape.
I'll try to post some pics in the next few days of my re-build once I find the time to work on it. |
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elzie5000 cutter
Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 1177
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Would it be possible to mask the important parts of a frame yourself before taking it to them? I mean, would they accept it that way? |
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alex I break bones for polo.
Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 309 Location: at home
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: |
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no, they'd take it off |
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brokebike cutter
Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2434 Location: local
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: |
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elzie5000 wrote: | Would it be possible to mask the important parts of a frame yourself before taking it to them? I mean, would they accept it that way? |
alex wrote: | no, they'd take it off |
reason being, they would sandblast it before powder coating it, and blasting would negate any taping beforehand...
I doubt the same guy would be doing the whole job throughout the process, and it would be even more doubtful that he would take the time to make note of where you had taped it so that he could re-tape after before powder coating. |
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LarryG training wheels
Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 18 Location: South Lexington
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: |
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I finished cleaning up the frame today. I was able to use gel-type paint stripper to take the powder off the brake studs & crown race seat. I carefully applied a little at a time, let it bubble for 5 minutes & then scraped. It worked, but not quickly. It also worked for the bb threads.
Two useful Dremel attachments were the flip-wheel sander (for honing the insides of the head and set tubes), and small rotary wire brush.
It's now electric blue. For a 23-year old bike, it looks prety cool. |
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