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World Naked Bike Ride, 8/27/11

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: World Naked Bike Ride, 8/27/11 Reply with quote

A guy came into the shop today and dropped off flyers for the World Naked Bike Ride, here's the link to the site, there's probably a facespace group.

http://wiki.worldnakedbikeride.org/index.php?title=Lexington

I just noticed the date of 2011, hmmm...that's some serious prep time, this has me confused. Still worth mentioning I guess!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I researched the laws on public nudity in Lex a few years ago when I was thinking of organizing a WNBR here. It isn't going to happen. Certainly not after he goes to try to get a police escort like the web site says.

The law here is much more restrictive than other places. Basically you can get arrested for showing any of your bathing suit parts in public whether or not anyone complains. Because you should have known it could cause offense.

Plus I think the guy doesn't know what year it is.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KRS 510.148 Indecent exposure in the first degree.

(1) A person is guilty of indecent exposure in the first degree when he intentionally exposes his genitals under circumstances in which he knows or should know that his conduct is likely to cause affront or alarm to a person under the age of eighteen (18) years.

(2) Indecent exposure in the first degree is a:

(a) Class B misdemeanor for the first offense;

(b) Class A misdemeanor for the second offense, if it was committed within three (3) years of the first conviction;

(c) Class D felony for the third offense, if it was committed within three (3) years of the second conviction; and

(d) Class D felony for any subsequent offense, if it was committed within three (3) years of the prior conviction.

Effective: July 13, 2004

History: Created 2004 Ky. Acts ch. 190, sec. 1, effective July 13, 2004.

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510.150 Indecent exposure in the second degree.

(1) A person is guilty of indecent exposure in the second degree when he intentionally exposes his genitals under circumstances in which he knows or should know that his conduct is likely to cause affront or alarm to a person eighteen (18) years of age or older.

(2) Indecent exposure in the second degree is a Class B misdemeanor.

Effective: July 13, 2004

History: Amended 2004 Ky. Acts ch. 190, sec. 2, effective July 13, 2004. -- Created 1974 Ky. Acts ch. 406, sec. 95, effective January 1, 1975.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:57 pm    Post subject: That's Me Reply with quote

Hey I think I know the guy you're talking about. I understand Kentucky is probably one of the worst places to start a World Naked Bike Ride, but I figure at worst I have to move to a place like Seattle where they have about 3 Rides a year.

I'm sure from the list of United States rides; The states don't vary too much in indecent exposure laws.
http://wiki.worldnakedbikeride.org/index.php?title=List_of_rides#United_States


What happens when you attach the first amendment to nudity, and put it on bikes agenst oil dependency?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity_and_protest

I had way too much fun riding 800 miles from Lex, KY to Chicago, St. Louis, and back home (clothed) to the World Naked Bike Rides happening in both mentioned cities. I was a naked Avatar in Chicago, and in St. Louis I was just in my socks and shoes.

For a lot of reasons I chose to make the date August 27th, 2011. Namely I've got to get the message out to a half million people in under about 370 days. I figure I can get the most out of the college students here, and I've got a little under 100 people on the facebook group so far, and over a thousand views to the wiki page.

If the group is large enough then the police probably wont do anything but laugh, and talk pictures like in Chicago and St. Louis. People don't have to be naked to participate in this event, and you'd be surprised at how little you have to wear to be legally decent. The name World Naked Bike Ride is more so used to get this exact discussion started and get the message out loads faster then the World Clothed Bike Ride.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: That's Me Reply with quote

I'm sure from the list of United States rides; The states don't vary too much in indecent exposure laws.

The laws are completely different from state to state and city to city. Some places you can be naked as long as you don't intend to bother anyone. In some places body paint counts as clothing. Here the law is one of the most restrictive in the country because the standard is that you "should have known" it was going to bother someone, regardless of your intent.

What happens when you attach the first amendment to nudity, and put it on bikes agenst oil dependency?

Realistically? It won't make a damn bit of difference. Intent isn't taken into consideration in KY.

I was a naked Avatar in Chicago

Well that's...something.

I've got to get the message out to a half million people in under about 370 days.

Good luck with that.

If the group is large enough then the police probably wont do anything but laugh, and talk pictures like in Chicago and St. Louis.

The legal standard in Chicago is "a lewd exposure of the body done with intent to arouse or to satisfy the sexual desire of the person."

The legal standard in St Lous is when someone "Exposes his or her genitals under circumstances in which he or she knows that his or her conduct is likely to cause affront or alarm".

Both those are totally different from the law here.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oil dependency huh, i understand the not using gasoline. but you have to take in the fact a lot oil is used to create plastic and rubber products.

probably would have worked out better to have the World Naked Walk...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:22 am    Post subject: Nothing Alike. Reply with quote

"oil dependency huh, I understand the not using gasoline, but you have to take in the fact a lot oil is used to create plastic and rubber products."

I completely agree with you. I had to oil up my bicycle in preparation for the http://www.phillynakedbikeride.org/ next month on the 5th, and I'm getting airbrushed as superman with a sparkly red cape. I guess they could be a bit more specific. I think it more geared against car culture, and any oil dependency that follows.



MO, Sexual misconduct
http://naturistaction.org/StatesFrames/State_Laws_Frames/Missouri_Laws/missouri_laws.html

KY, Indecent exposure
http://naturistaction.org/StatesFrames/State_Laws_Frames/Kentucky_Laws/kentucky_laws.html

The laws are similar, but I was still riding around St. Louis only in my socks and shoes for 15 miles. You don't have to bash me for trying. I understand there's a .01%(at best) chance of everything working out okay, but ever since my right lung collapsed I've lived by the motto "Follow your dreams, if you don't try, you fail"(A Shipwreck in the Sand by Silverstein).

If you read on the early days of the Chicago ride they where raided by the police but they persevered, and now it's going strong for eight years now. The police now stop traffic for them. It's a win win either way it goes. If it works I can say I started it here. If it fails I'll move somewhere more accepting, and you all can continue with your ideologies of this region. I'd like to be the person responsible for starting one, but I can settle for failure only when I tried.

Heres a picture of me before I took the last bit of clothing off.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that picture says everything anyone needs to know.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:08 pm    Post subject: Failed to try. Reply with quote

I'll be Superman next week in Philly only wearing a sparly red cape.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Interest Reply with quote

If anyone is interested in seeing this idea threw then I'll need organizers, and volunteer to help lass out flyers at the major holiday celebrations and pride day in Lexington. You can visit the wiki page for more info or send me an email at lexingtonbikeride@gmail.com to see how you can help out.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:59 pm    Post subject: anyone can join Reply with quote

If anyone shares in the above concerns; you can fully participate in your winter cloths or whatever you feel most comfortable in. I'm going to try and get away with as little cloths as possible, but if you're more then welcome to participate clothed.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mission accomplished. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, how was the turnout? Details? Drama?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: Better then I could have hoped Reply with quote

So far I've been to 5 Naked Bike Ride including the Lexington ride and without exaggeration one of the the best rides I've participated in yet. I got to the meetup, and I saw 6 squad cars with about as many cops casually talking to each other near the center car. I eventually found where everybody was congregating.

There was already about 30 people at the 7 PM meetup time, and included people that drove from Chicago to be in the ride. After I met up with everyone I put my bike and stuff near a friend's bike and walked over to the group of cops to just explain things, and they were very supportive of the cause. They said we had to cover our lower bits thou, but legally anyone can go topless in Kentucky.

I found out from the all male officers that Boobies aren't considered genitals so there's no way for them to be indecently exposed. I think they were hinting at something.

We had about 60 people by the time the ride was suppose to start at 9 PM. Leading them all was like trying to corral a bunch of cats. The back half got cut off, and the front half of what was left took a wrong turn. We all somehow met back up before doing another round on Main St, and no one was seriously hurt. I call that a successful ride.

Hope to see you all at #2

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