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THEY'RE TEARING DOWN THE DAME, BUSTERS,etc!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, that blows.

Did they get demo approval?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dunno... it may not even be adjourned yet. I stayed until a little after 4pm, and I don't even think they were close to wrapping up. Webb Co. sure played their main card early in the game though, bragging about not needing TIF financing now... but whatever... I bet it's a bluff.

Excellent speeches by Jim Gray, Tom Blues and Hayward Wilkirson. I was even somewhat impressed by crusty old DeCamp. That Historic Registry lady, I think was losing everyone...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

demo was approved.

fuck.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from kentucky.com.....

http://www.kentucky.com/254/story/443851.html

it's frustrating that it gets approval now, after the webbeees asked for the delay to further "inform" the public, and did nothing at all except release ridiculous new images. could they suck any worse?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their 'informing of the public' mainly consisted of a fuckton of closed-door lobbying. Old-boy-network Lex at its best.

not needing TIF financing now... but whatever... I bet it's a bluff.

I would have gone with 'outright lie' and/or 'delusional', but that works too.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know they're going to gladly take it if they can get it... besides, the article already suggested that they need that taxpayer money for, oh you know, a FUCKING JUMBOTRON.

I'm going to start stocking up on pastel polo shirts, khaki shorts and boat shoes... because I'm going to need to update my wardrobe to fit in with our brand spanking new mediocre downtown.

it might help me get a better table at our downtown Pizzaria UNO or Bennigan's.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

everyone should read the monkey wrench gang for advice on how to proceed from here.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should also check out the new anarchist cookbook titled "recipes for disaster" by the crimethinc collective.

this isn't anything like the old cookbook which was frought full of bad information on drugs and bomb making. this version, put out by a completely seperate group of folks, is a lot of fun and could actually yeild positive results all around.

there is also the earth first direct action manual. which offers a lot of other really good ideas for blockades, recon, infiltration.

the monkey wrench gang is just kind of a precurser to all that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure a few choice tagged words in Pat's last post earns our forum a spot on some sort of gov't. watch list...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm sure we were already on it. with all the critical mass stuff. well probably not, but i wouldn't be surprised now a days with all the green scare stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is Joe Sonka's write up of the Courthouse Review Board meeting. It is dead on. I was there for the whole thing and his description is perfect.

http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2008/06/anatomy-of-cultural-murder-courthouse.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Y'know at this point, I want the worst case scenario to happen.

I want there to be a giant dirt hole where that block and Phoenix park now sit, a half poured foundation with bent rebar sticking out, cracked foundations in buildings on all the facing blocks and the tunnel under Water street caved in because of blasting for the geologically impossible underground parking. All of that and worse for the Webbs and courthouse review board members to have to see every day.

Fuck it all, I'll dance on the grave.


This is under the sidewalk on the Vine St side of the block.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and then, we can offer dirt cheap rent money to build up a new busters and dame! FROM THE ASHES IT WILL RISE ANEW

or something.

but really, if the appeal fails, i would trade in a "shiek" eyesore for a webb-and-told-ya-so unfinished eyesore as well.

that way, i hope, they will learn their lesson permanently.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, Joe Sonka's eye-witness account pretty much hits the nail on the head.

I was sitting between him, and the dreadlocked poetry guy. All I could think to myself was, "Fuck. Their side has a cadre of polished, pressed-suit pretty boys fresh out of law school sitting here memorizing all of the Webb Bros. talking points, and what does our side have? Well, we have a grandma in Birkenstocks doing her knitting and a dude scribbling a beat poem on a napkin."
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elzie5000 wrote:

This is under the sidewalk on the Vine St side of the block.


Fortunate you picked Town Branch, because that's one escape out of this mess in downtown Lex....literally. Town Branch Trail baby from downtown to Masterson Station, not that this is a great destination, but!...

While I think the block is lost, I'm trying to be optimistic. Besides rallying to change the design of this rude complex, I think there's an opportunity to lobby for more trails, bike paths, greenspace, public parks, etc... This won't replace the Dame or Buster's, but it could provide safe, scenic paths to other parts of town with my kind of pubs. Well, ideally of course.
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