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natedogg · training wheels Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 11

Doe's anyone know how to grease and maintain one of these? I have a 1967 Schwinn Stingray with a blue band 2 speed kick back hub. It works great, but I know it hasn't been serviced in 44 years.

sailorjames · cutter Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 329

It's been a while since I looked into this, but if it is a Bendix kickback, there's a tool that's no longer made that disassembles the hub. It basically is a two prong freewheel-remover-like tool.

Here's some links to docs i have bookmarked for the day I'm able to make a tool to disassemble my red band hub.

http://www.trfindley.com/pgbndxhbs.html

http://www.bunchobikes.com/auto.htm

drewbles · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:27 am Post subject:

these things are sooo awesome!!!!! sturmey archer just started making them again both coaster brake and freewheel style.

sorry, no idea how to service them although I'm sure you could find a diagram online. does adding any grease to the grease port help? i'd be wary of taking it apart unless you've done similar work before.
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brokebike · cutter Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 2434 Location: local

You have to really have some mechanical fortitude to tackle taking apart even a simple (by comparison) coaster brake hub and reassemble it. Regardless of whether or not you have the right tool, when you pop open one of these hubs and you get into the complicated mess of pawls and planetary gears, it's a bit overwhelming, and you have to make sure you're careful with where everything goes when you attempt to put it back together.

Not trying to discourage you from tinkering, just know that it's nowhere near as easy as just packing some bearings with grease.
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politicalhero · Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:54 am Post subject:

I would suggest talking to Robert at Lexington Bicycle Center.

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robert brandon · training wheels Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 42

Yeah, I LOVE 2-speed kickbacks. When I went to Chicago in the eighties for Scwinn Factory Mechanic school, we got to dive into them. I had one at the time on a schwinn tandem, and I went home and overhauled it, and since have only done a handful. The great thing about 2-speed kickbacks is that they are very reliable, and don't need much maintenance.

If it were me, I'd just leave it alone and enjoy it. If it starts to act up on you, bring it in and we'd be glad to overhaul it for you.........

Robert Brandon
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sailorjames · cutter Joined: 15 Nov 2007 Posts: 329

So does this mean you have the tool required to take them apart robert? I'd wonder if I could find a way to copy it?

robert brandon · training wheels Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 42

If you don't have the AB-102 tool, you can make one out of a 3/8" waterpipe. But there is an old timer's trick to get in there without the tool. Laughing

Robert
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robert brandon · training wheels Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 42

Hey James,

I think I have the tool in a collection of freewheel tools I inherited from Brian Schuler (DODDS). I'll let you borrow it if it can be unearthed.

You can make your own by cutting two pieces of 3/8" plumbing pipe. One should be about 1 3/4" and the other about 5". Take your dremel or hacksaw and cut slots in the end of the short piece, and join the two with an elbow joint. It should act now like an old Suntour freewheel tool. (with a handle)

OR.....

Loosen the lock nut on the brake arm, and put a crecent wrench on the flats of the sun gear that the special lock nut is recessed in. Grab a hold of it and just back the whole show out....if the other side starts turning just lock it down on the drive side and the non drive side will back itself out....

But, again, if it is working why bother?

Cheers

Robert Wink

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